This is not your typical and i think its actually happening more and more, or now that we are aware of it we see it more.,
Here is what we had done to diagnose the issue,
- Scan And Record Fault Codes
Pcm
P0234 – Turbo Charger Over Boost Condition
Abs
Ecm And Tcm Invalid Data Codes
Test Drive Vehicle And Found That The Fault Code Is Correct And That The Boost Pressure Is Going Too High
Desired Valve Of: 17 Psi
Turbo Is Hitting: 32 Psi - Inspections
Check Egr And For Other Accessories
Found The Numbers All Look Good,
Check Boost Sensor And Found To Be Relatively Clean - Check Turbo And Turbo Actuator Rods And Control
Found There Is No Reset For The Turbo Actuator And The Turbo Actuator Is Vacuum On Solenoid Type,
Check The Operation Of The Vacuum And Found To Be Ok - Reset Fuel Pump And Injectors
Seeing As There Is No Reset Specifically For The Turbo Actuator Learning
Clear The Learning Values For The Main Diesel Fuel Pump And The Pre Injection Learning.
Carry Out Drive Cycle And Check That The Learning Is Complete,
Found That During The Boost Levels Are Good And Not Going Wildly Above Desired Boost Pressure - 2nd Drive Cycle
Carry Out 2nd Drive Cycle And Check Turbo Operation
Found Turbo Operation Follows The Desired,
Desired Value: 17 Psi
Turbo Is Hitting: 17.5 Psi
And Regulated Is Just Below A Second Later ( No Wild Boost)
The Vehicle Doesn’t Feel As Punchy Now,
But The Vehicle Now Drives How They Should.
i have been working on a vehicle now for over 6 weeks and in Australia trying to use witech to connect to a vehicle online with all the account non sense is really time consuming and has left and will always leave a bad taste in my mouth about stellatis.
how ever whilst searching or clues I found this very well written document about how the whole SKIM and RFH system works and how it’s tied together
DESCRIPTION AND OPERATION, SMART KEY IMMOBILIZER MODULE
The Smart Key Immobilizer Module (SKIM) contains a Radio Frequency (RF) transceiver and a central processing unit, which includes the Smart Key Immobilizer System (SKIS) program logic. The SKIS programming enables the SKIM to program and retain in memory the codes of at least two, but no more than eight electronically coded Smart Key transponders.
The SKIS programming also enables the SKIM to communicate over the Chrysler Collision Detection (CCD) data bus network with the Powertrain Control Module (PCM), the instrument cluster and/or the DRB scan tool.
The SKIM transmits and receives RF signals through a tuned antenna enclosed within a molded plastic ring formation that is integral to the SKIM housing. When the SKIM is properly installed on the steering column, the antenna ring is oriented around the circumference of the ignition lock cylinder housing. This antenna ring must be located within eight millimeters (0.31 inches) of the Smart Key in order to ensure proper RF communication between the SKIM and the Smart Key transponder.
For added system security, each SKIM is programmed with a unique “Secret Key” code and a security code. The SKIM keeps the “Secret Key” code in memory and sends the code over the CCD data bus to the PCM, which also keeps this code in its memory. The SKIM also sends the “Secret Key” code to each of the programmed Smart Key transponders. The security code is used by the assembly plant to access the SKIS for initialization, or by the dealer technician to access the system for service. The SKIM also stores in its memory the Vehicle Identification Number (VIN), which it learns through a CCD data bus message from the PCM.
The SKIM and the PCM both use software that includes a rolling code algorithm strategy, which helps to reduce the possibility of unauthorized SKIS disarming. The rolling code algorithm ensures security by preventing an override of the SKIS through the unauthorized substitution of the SKIM or the PCM. However, the use of this strategy also means that replacement of either the SKIM or the PCM units will require a system initialization procedure to restore system operation.
When the ignition switch is turned to the On or Start positions, the SKIM transmits an RF signal to excite the Smart Key transponder. The SKIM then listens for a return RF signal from the transponder of the Smart Key that is inserted in the ignition lock cylinder. If the SKIM receives an RF signal with valid “Secret Key” and transponder identification codes, the SKIM sends a “valid key” message to the PCM over the CCD data bus. If the SKIM receives an invalid RF signal or no response, it sends “invalid key” messages to the PCM. The PCM will enable or disable engine operation based upon the status of the SKIM messages.
The SKIM also sends messages to the instrument cluster over the CCD data bus network to control the SKIS indicator lamp. The SKIM sends messages to the instrument cluster to turn the lamp on for about three seconds when the ignition switch is turned to the On position as a bulb test. After completion of the bulb test, the SKIM sends bus messages to keep the lamp off for a duration of about one second. Then the SKIM sends messages to turn the lamp on or off based upon the results of the SKIS self-tests. If the SKIS indicator lamp comes on and stays on after the bulb test, it indicates that the SKIM has detected a system malfunction and/or that the SKIS has become inoperative.
If the SKIM detects an invalid key when the ignition switch is turned to the On position, it sends messages to the instrument cluster to flash the SKIS indicator lamp. The SKIM can also send messages to the instrument cluster to flash the lamp and to generate a single audible chime tone. These functions serve as an indication to the customer that the SKIS has been placed in its “Customer Learn” programming mode. See Smart Key Immobilizer System Transponder Programming in this group for more information on the “Customer Learn” programming mode.
For diagnosis or initialization of the SKIM and the PCM, a DRB scan tool and the proper Diagnostic Procedures manual are required. The SKIM cannot be repaired and, if faulty or damaged, the unit must be replaced.
The secret key can be read from the PCM
The secret key can be transfered from the WCM to the PCM and BCM with alfa obd
The Secret Key can be rewritten on the PCM with APNT.
here is what you do manual with out as an tool if the throttle closed position is not learned
Have you reset the throttle body? Modern fly by wire systems, If disconnected, need to relearn their parameters. The process to reset is not the same for all cars, but generallly follows a similar pattern, for example by pressing the throttle, holding it whilst turniing ignition on and off a certain amount of times.
If you google, you’ll find it.
Here is the Note reset procedure, it may be the same?
1. Perform EC-857, “Accelerator Pedal Released Position Learning” . (ignore)
2. Perform EC-857, “Throttle Valve Closed Position Learning” .(ignore)
3. Start engine and warm it up to normal operating temperature.
4. Check that all items listed under the topic PREPARATION (previously mentioned) are in good order.
5. Turn ignition switch OFF and wait at least 10 seconds.
6. Confirm that accelerator pedal is fully released, turn ignition switch ON and wait 3 seconds.
7. Repeat the following procedure quickly five times within 5 seconds.
a. Fully depress the accelerator pedal.
b. Fully release the accelerator pedal.
8. Wait 7 seconds, fully depress the accelerator pedal and keep it for approx. 20 seconds until the MI stops
blinking and turned ON.
9. Fully release the accelerator pedal within 3 seconds after the MI turned ON.
10. Start engine and let it idle.
11. Wait 20 seconds
if load value in pcm is 33% carry out self learning control you are supposed to but it said release the hand control and didn’t do anything so stuffed if I know I’ll update when I try on the next car
When updating Service Km’s the Mazda connect centre stack did not update the instrument cluster, you’ll notice the spanner light went out, but every time you start the car, the notification still pops up.
The Service reset Procedure on Mazda CX-5, this is for when you need to reset the instrument cluster service notification, when you have already changed/ reset service notification in the Mazda connect centre stack radio.
We found the anomaly to where the procedure goes wrong, by accident
The Instrument clusters on this model won’t get updated from the Mazdas connect centre stack if the instrument cluster if not displaying the service notification page, at the time when the reset is carried out the normal way.
So this you tube video will show you how to reset when they become unsynced
We have found this on the higher spec clusters on: Mazda Cx-5, Mazda 6
Most people will know that these vehicle suffer from DPF issues, i have heard every thing from the 5th injector to the way the vehicle is driven.
so anyways finally had the chance to look at a vehicle that has 100,000kms on the clock and it is doing what every one else has been taking it back to toyota for.
So being us here we took a look drove the vehicvle around and checked the live data, the vehicle does go into a regen and it finishes, cool system operational.,
the differential pressure builds back up too quickly for my liking, – Leaky Diesel Injectors, as we know they are worn a 100,000kms.
but i wasnt happy just with that so i decided to puit a camera down in the temp probe holes and see whats happening,
heres what i saw:
- the entry into the cat was blocked all around the outer diameter the holes being blocked.
- the temp probe #2 dirty and the DPF differential pipe was blocked – dusty carbon had blocked the hole
- the temp probe #3 was clean
- going back to the #1 temp probe i turned the camera to see what else was there and i noticed, that the way the outlet from the turbo comes out in the turbine wheels diameter and then all of a sudden the pipe opens to DPF / Catalyst Diameter ( FAIL )
This is where i hit the Nail on the Head and relaised that the way air velosity works when the exhuast rushes from the smaller diameter to the larger on the outside diameter air will slow down way to quick and in thaty event will loose speed and Heat.
What im saying here is Toyota Knew they made a few million of these things and installed to a shit ton of 1GD Engines all around the World. it was going to cut too much to recall every dpf and change the exhuast gask velocity of the turbine outlet by modifying the diameter change rate
but im thinging of a solution to cut the front of the nose off and weld in a steel insert to fill the low pressure cavity to speed up the exhuast gas into the outside diameter of the catalyst and that should stop these vehicles failing.
BLoody BINGO Dickheads
More research was done after my initial checks on the class action and the links and results are below ill leave my comments here too.
There is a class Action which they lost on, but it doesnt really tell you what is wrong
So in the modern age i decieded to copy and paste the contents into Open AI and ask for the answer rather than me reading it to start with, here is the answer i got
OPENAI – Question >
READ THE FOLLOWING AND TELL ME WHY THE DPF SYSTEM FAILS
Questions Common to Group Members
References below to paragraphs of the reasons for judgment delivered by Justice Lee on
7 April 2022 (Reasons) and the reasons for judgment delivered by the Justices Moshinsky,
Colvin and Stewart on 27 March 2023 (Full Court Reasons) are included for convenience
only and do not, and should not be understood to, limit the Reasons or the Full Court
Reasons.
The questions of law or fact common to the claims of the group members, and the answers to
those questions, are:
Characteristics of the Relevant Vehicles
- Throughout the Relevant Period, was it the case that:
(a) the DPF System in the Relevant Vehicles was not designed to function
effectively during all reasonably expected conditions of normal operation and
use in the Australian market, including the High Speed Driving Pattern;
A: Yes: Reasons, [15(6)], [15(7)].
(b) in the event that the Relevant Vehicles were exposed to the High Speed
Driving Pattern or the Earlier Countermeasures the DPF System was
ineffective in preventing the formation of deposits on the DOC surface or
coking within the DOC, which in turn prevented the DPF from regenerating
effectively;
A: Yes: Reasons, [15(6)], [15(8)].
(c) if the Relevant Vehicles were exposed to the High Speed Driving Pattern
and/or the Earlier Countermeasures:
1.c.1 the DOC became blocked by deposits forming on the face of the DOC;
1.c.2 regeneration events failed to remove sufficient particulate matter from
the DPF to prevent the DPF from becoming or remaining ‘full’ or
blocked;
1.c.3 the DPF System failed to prevent the DPF from becoming ‘full’ or
blocked;
- 4 –
Prepared in the New South Wales District Registry, Federal Court of Australia
Level 17, Law Courts Building, Queens Square, Telephone 1300 720 980.
1.c.4 the DOC and DPF did not function effectively;
1.c.5 the catalytic efficiency of the DOC was diminished;
1.c.6 the exhaust in the DPF did not reach a sufficiently high temperature to
effect thermal oxidation;
A: Yes: Reasons, [15(8)].
(d) if a Relevant Vehicle was exposed to the High Speed Driving Pattern, the
Relevant Vehicles would experience one or more of the following
consequences by reason of the Core Defect:
1.4.1 damage to the DOC;
1.4.2 the flow of unoxidized fuel through the DPF and the emission of white
smoke from the vehicle’s exhaust during and immediately following
regeneration;
1.4.3 the emission of excessive white smoke and foul-smelling exhaust from
the vehicle’s exhaust during regeneration;
1.4.4 partial or complete blockage of the DPF;
1.4.5 the emission of foul-smelling exhaust from the exhaust pipe when the
engine was on during and immediately following Automatic
Regeneration;
1.4.6 the need to have the Relevant Vehicle inspected, serviced and/or
repaired by a service engineer for the purpose of cleaning, repairing or
replacing the DPF, the DPF System (or components thereof);
1.4.7 the need to have the Relevant Vehicle inspected, serviced and/or
repaired more regularly than would be required absent the Core Defect;
1.4.8 the need to programme the ECM more often than would be required
absent the Core Defect; or
1.4.9 the display of DPF Notifications on an excessive number of occasions
and/or for an excessive period of time;
1.4.10 blockage of the Additional Injector due to carbon deposits on its tip;
1.4.11 the Additional Injector causes deposits forming on the face of the
DOC, causing white smoke; and - 5 –
Prepared in the New South Wales District Registry, Federal Court of Australia
Level 17, Law Courts Building, Queens Square, Telephone 1300 720 980.
1.4.12 an increase in fuel consumption and decrease in fuel economy.
A: Yes: Reasons, [59].
(e) by reason of the fact that the Core Defect was present in each Relevant
Vehicle at the time it was supplied, each Relevant Vehicle had a propensity to
experience one or more of the Defect Consequences;
A: Yes: Reasons, [62]-[63].
- Were all Relevant Vehicles subject to the statutory guarantee as to acceptable quality
in s 54(1) of the Australian Consumer Law?
A: Yes: Reasons, [155], [162]. - Can the question of whether the Relevant Vehicles were not of acceptable quality
within the meaning of s 54(2) of the Australian Consumer Law be determined on a
common basis?
A: Yes: Reasons, [212]; Full Court Reasons, [51]. - Were the Relevant Vehicles not of acceptable quality within the meaning of s 54(2) of
the Australian Consumer Law?
A: Yes, the Relevant Vehicles were not of acceptable quality within the meaning of
s 54(2) of the ACL: Reasons, [173]-[213]; Full Court Reasons, [65]. - Was the 2020 Field Fix effective in, and will it continue to be effective in, remedying
the Core Defect and its consequences in all Relevant Vehicles to which the 2020 Field
Fix has been applied?
A: Yes: Reasons, [15(10)].
Vehicle Representations - During the Relevant Period, did TMCA represent to the public at large that the
Relevant Vehicles:
(a) were, or were part of model lines that were, in their design and manufacturing:
6.a.1 not defective;
6.a.2 of good quality;
6.a.3 reliable;
6.a.4 durable;
- 6 –
Prepared in the New South Wales District Registry, Federal Court of Australia
Level 17, Law Courts Building, Queens Square, Telephone 1300 720 980.
6.a.5 suitable for use in any driving environment; and
(b) provided, or were part of model lines that provided, a driving and/or passenger
experience that was comfortable?
A: Yes: Reasons, [215(1)(a) and (b)].
- Was each Vehicle Representation made continuously by TMCA throughout the
Relevant Period?
A: Yes: Reasons, [217]
OpenAi’s Answer >
The Diesel Particulate Filter (DPF) is a component often found in the exhaust system of diesel vehicles to trap and remove harmful particulate matter before it is released into the air. However, there are several reasons why the DPF system may fail:
- Lack of proper maintenance: If the DPF is not regularly cleaned and maintained, it can become clogged with soot and other particles, reducing its effectiveness and eventually leading to failure.
- Short driving trips: DPFs require regular high-temperature regeneration to burn off the trapped soot. If a vehicle is used primarily for short trips where the exhaust does not reach high enough temperatures, the DPF may not be able to regenerate properly, leading to failure.
- Faulty sensors: The DPF system has sensors that monitor the temperature and pressure within the filter. If these sensors are faulty or malfunctioning, they may not trigger the necessary regeneration process, leading to DPF failure.
- Low-quality fuel: Using low-quality or contaminated fuel can result in increased soot production and buildup in the DPF, causing it to become clogged and leading to failure.
- Mechanical issues: Other mechanical problems with the vehicle, such as a leaking exhaust system or a faulty EGR valve, can impact the effectiveness of the DPF system and cause it to fail.
I didnt like that answer as it didnt uise the document to find the answer so i asked again.;
OpenAi’s Answer >
I apologize for the confusion in my previous response. The specific reasons outlined in the text provided for the failure of the DPF system in the Relevant Vehicles include the fact that the DPF system was not designed to function effectively under certain driving conditions, such as the High Speed Driving Pattern, and that exposure to this pattern or earlier countermeasures could lead to the formation of deposits on the DOC surface or coking within the DOC, which in turn prevented the DPF from regenerating effectively. Additionally, the Core Defect present in each Relevant Vehicle led to various consequences such as damage to the DOC, blockage of the DPF, emission of white smoke, and decreased fuel economy. Despite the attempt to address these issues with the 2020 Field Fix, the Core Defect and its consequences were not effectively remedied in all Relevant Vehicles. These factors ultimately led to the determination that the Relevant Vehicles were not of acceptable quality under the Australian Consumer Law.
thats more like it, But Toyota didnt really explain what they fucked up on in the design and admit liability,
That is all took Me about 3 Days to Work it out, what i used.
1. 25 years of experience.
2. Scan Tool and live data
3. A Camera / bore scope to get into the small holes, with out removing the dpf from the car.
4. and a Passion for learning why the Fault presents its self over a long period of time.
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